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Memo To Domainers – Stay Away From New gTLDs…They’re Not For You

As many of you know I wear two hats, one as a domain investor and the other as a startup founder. These are two different worlds and at the moment 99% of my time is spend as the co-founder of LA-based fashion startup Fashion Metric. That being said my previous company (Linton Investments) is still running strong making money buying, selling, and helping startups acquire domains.

Let me put on my Domain Investor hat.

So let’s talk about the new gTLDs because I think many Domainers have missed why I’m such a fan of them. For the millionth time let me say this very clearly – I don’t think the new gTLDs represent good investment opportunities for Domainers. As a domain investor I am putting the vast majority of my money into .COM and I don’t see that changing anytime in the next decade.

From an investment standpoint I see .COM prices only going up as the new gTLDs hit the market. Linton Investments still actively buys domains and I can tell you this month, next month, the month after that, etc. we’re focused on buying one and two word .COMs.

As a domain investor I think you will absolutely lose your shirt if you decide to change your investment strategy and focus on new gTLDs. Just look at sales like TeamWork.com for $650,000 or IG.com for over $4M and it’s easy to see that .COMs are without a doubt the gold standard for investment-grade domains.

I hope I’ve made this incredibly clear but just to re-iterate again, as a domain investor I am putting my focus on .COM, I see .COM prices only going up, and I think anyone who decides to build a domain portfolio full of new gTLDs is going to lose a small fortune.

Okay, now putting on my startup founder hat.

As a startup founder I know many other founders. Very few have six-figure budgets for a domain name, they might some day, but they don’t now. I think if an education startup wants to call themselves “Education Guru” and the .COM owner wants $250,000 and they only have $2,500 then a domain like Education.guru is actually a great choice.

I have seen companies like HelloBrit.com raise over $7M and rebrand to Brit.co after raising millions. If you go to Silicon Valley and talk to any investor they’ll tell you that Brit.co is one of the hottest startups out there. Another startup wanted to call themselves Intercom…but they didn’t have the budget for Intercom.com so they built it on a .IO. Did that impact their business? Nope, they went on to raise over $30M.

There are so many examples of successful startups branding on non .COMs that we can no longer say that you need a .COM to be successful, the numbers just don’t show that.

So as a startup founder I say, go for it, brand around a new gTLD or an existing non .COM like .CO or .ME that has clearly established themselves as a go-to domain extension for startups. If you raise $100,000 that money should go into building your team and your product, spend all of it on a domain and that’s all you’ll be left with.

So, like the title says – Domainers – stop talking about new gTLDs as if they were made for you. They’re not, and I think they will make terrible investments in almost all cases. For startup founders and small business owners all over the world new gTLDs represent a new opportunity to get the brand name that you want rather than opting for your 3rd or 4th choice name.

Morgan

Co-Founder at Fashion Metric
Morgan Linton was born in Berkeley, California but spent nine years traveling the world as an early employee for digital music startup Sonos. In 2007 Morgan founded Linton Investments, a domain name and branding company that has helped some of the most recognized startups in the world acquire their top choice domain name. In 2012 Morgan left his full-time job to co-found Fashion Metric, a next-generation platform aimed at changing the way guys shop for clothes online.

{ 46 comments… add one }

  • MarijuanaGuy January 30, 2014, 11:25 am

    Am glad you have a good sense of humor.

    Good way to backstabbing someone.

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 11:34 am

    Linton,

    I was one of the ones taking on you yesterday.

    First of all, here’s the question you raised in the last post: “Is .COM Dead? Some Say Yes, Others Say No – I Think Both Sides Are Right In Their Own Way”.

    That is a different topic altogether. Yesterday, you were “damn wrong”, today you are only mistaken. And here’s why:

    Need determines investment.

    If these start-ups need these new GTLDs, then automatically, these new GTLDs make for a good investment candidates. Period.

    That’s how our markets work. As far as some people need something, that something is finite in number, somebody will produce, and or hoard it, and eventually, middle-men and women will do their thing, and a market will be created to bring buyer and seller together. It’s automatic.

    So, your premises are in conflict. Once you say that new Start-ups will need new gTLDs, you can’t say that domainers cannot prosper from investing in them, because they can.

    Believe it or not, Frank Schilling is a domainer in Registry clothing. If these new gTLDs take off, he will show you that he has experience in domaining. AND that’s just one guy. All of them are domainers. Including Donuts, and now Google and ICANN. Everybody is a domainer.

    That has been the issue all along. There appeared to be money in domain name investing. BUT to them, it was in the wrong hands; and they had missed the boat, so now they are artificially trying to wrest it from the hands of “unsophisticated” domainers, that will be us, and put it in the hands of ICANN, Google, Donuts, and so on.

    Linton, if you are transitioning to become a clothes guy, just go on. Stop embarrassing us with half baked theories. Just because you are doing a start-up, doesn’t mean you have to drag all of us into it. We are domainers, we don’t want to be anything else. Some of us, have other ventures, but we keep them separate from domaining. I like your Fashion stuff, but, not as much as I like domaining. To me, domaining hasn’t even started yet. It will defeat the cabal out to get it. Sure, these people are powerful, including ICANN, but I have confidence in our system. I know we shall overcome…

  • Robbie January 30, 2014, 11:41 am

    Funny you were bidding on new gtld’s at namejet, for .xyz? What was up with that, or was that just for show?

  • Morgan January 30, 2014, 11:43 am

    @Robbie – 90% of my portfolio will be .COM, 10% new gTLDs. My focus is .COM but I’m willing to take a risk just like everyone else did in the 90′s…like I said in this post, I expect this 10% to be worth nothing which is why my investment focus is .COM

    Keep the comment coming, as always I want everyone to feel comfortable expressing their opinions. There’s no right and wrong here, only opinions! :)

  • Michael January 30, 2014, 12:11 pm

    I think you’re absolutely right, the new G’s could be good for businesses, but aren’t a good investment opportunity for domain investors. The foundation of our business is trading in scarcity, if you have a good domain name with few alternatives you have someone over a barrel and you can demand a high price.

    But if someone has already decided that they’re going for a “dot com alternative” like .io, .co or one of the new G’s they’re already making a compromise. Why would they pay you big bucks for example.xyz when they could pick another one for reg fee like example.web? It is a perfectly suitable alternative. There are too many extensions for domain investors to absorb enough to create scarcity.

    That said, some of the new G’s don’t have an equally viable alternative, one that comes to mind is .app. If someone wants chat.app, it isn’t the same difference if they buy chat.xyz, it doesn’t have the same meaning or gravitas. So if you’re the owner of chat.app you could possibly have someone over a barrel and get a high price.

    I disagree with you regarding not affecting dot com prices. I think new G’s will hurt low and mid tier domains in .com. They are already a compromise of sorts, so why pay low to mid $x,xxx for a compromise when you could pay $30 for a different compromise that might even be *more* brandable? I think it will also hurt the prices of legacy “dot com alternatives” like .net and .co, if I were heavily invested in these extensions I would be nervous.

  • Morgan January 30, 2014, 12:44 pm

    Thanks @Michael – very good points and agreed on most. As for hurting .COM prices I have to disagree, I think .COM prices will go way up as they become an even more scarce resource in an even larger ocean…

  • Kevin M. January 30, 2014, 12:51 pm

    I agree totally Morgan. Domainers have gotten accustomed to seeing and using domains as ‘commodities’ to be resold, or investments for future roi, or (for too many), as ‘their/the winning lottery ticket’, and thus have a hard time justifying that these new gtlds will be successful based on that realm of perspective. I also am of the mind that these new gTLDs are geared and targeted to, the general public, start-ups, or businesses that want a premium (not expensive) brandable domain for their ventures, and not to the average domain investors. The domainer interest to claim as many as they want domains, though I’m sure would be very appreciated, is not their main stay audience or reliance upon. And I think this throws domainers off, as that is not the way ‘it has been!”. There will be some domainers that will be smart and witty enough to grab some prime names and resell them for a good roi, but that will be probably be far and few, and not an easy path for the more average or broke domainer. But as you note, as for investments on course with current domaining operandi, these new gTLDs are ‘not’ for the domain collecting investor! The savvy ‘grab 2 or 3 prime domains’ in here and there gTLD investor, ..well maybe.

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 12:51 pm

    Shame on you, Morgan, for being both a domainer and an entrepreneur! :D How can you juggle both functions, it’s preposterous.

    On a serious note, you managed to ruffle the feathers of the usual Peanut Gallery – you know who you are.

    Morgan, please don’t waste your valuable time trying to help those that refuse to be helped! They are here only to bitch and moan.

    Great seeing you at NamesCon, the ones that succeed are those who keep a positive outlook in life.

  • Dave January 30, 2014, 12:57 pm

    .io and .me are gaining ground!

  • Michael January 30, 2014, 12:57 pm

    Morgan, I should re-phrase. I think mediocre dot com domains might not appreciate as quickly as a result of new G’s. You might not even notice it in the reseller market for a while, because it will take some time of end users refusing to pay a premium before domain investors adjust the levels of what they are willing to pay. It could be years.

    Essentially what I’m trying to say is that the high end shouldn’t be affected at all. Someone who wanted to buy Toys.com for $4M is not going to suddenly say, well jeez, now I can buy Toys.xyz for $30, why would I pay $4M for Toys.com. People who know what they want, and want the best, will not be distracted by this sideshow.

    But I really think it’ll affect buyers who were willing to pay a few grand for a mediocre .com domain because they didn’t have a good alternative for reg fee (assuming .net and others taken). They’re already compromising, why do you think they won’t take it a step further to save a few more grand?

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 1:22 pm

    @Acro,

    If you ever want to match wits with someone, o it directly. There’s no need for Ad Hominem attacks, or silly side remarks.

    My points are up there; my take is there. If you differ, tell us why? Don’t hide behind imaginary friendships. Transforming into some srt of attack dog for popular people is okay, but not really a concern for me.

    If you have a different take on a topic I’m engaged in, let’s hear it.

    Linton is not helping me. He is expressing his opinion, which he is entitled to, and I am expressing mine. There’s no helper-helped relationship created, nor sort.

    Be your own man.

    Put up some opinions on the board. Let frank Schillings speak for himself. So too, Linton. And ICANN’s Chehadé; these people are NOT untouchables, and none of them claim to be an infallible creature, or inerrant in actions.

    The role of a critic, such as myself is limitless. I can criticize all I see. We live in such a world today. Everything is in the flux; you are apparently a boundless optimist, so any pessimism to you is too much. Welcome to freedom!

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 3:38 pm

    “Be your own man”, says the guy that flip-flopped of going to NamesCon.

    Domenclature, you complain too much, dude. Don’t like this, don’t want that, accuse Francois of Domaining.com how he ‘enslaves’ bloggers, and other such stuff that clearly show you have some type of sociopath stigmata.

    Nobody owes you anything. You are banned from my blogs, because you are one passive-aggressive weirdo. Don’t get me started with your derogatory references to those domain investors who have proven themselves.

    PS Find a hobby.

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 3:44 pm

    I am going to make a second incursion into this post. I can;t help it, it is not only necessary, it’s mandatory.

    And that will be an attempt to describe dot Com.

    What in fact is .Com?

    My answer to this vital question is s simple one. Dot com is in a nut shell America.

    I have realized that most people, perhaps all, who feel that the world should be a Multi-polar one, and should not be dominated by United States, are the same ones who think that dot com should be damned. And the rest, simply go along with it because they feel that it is inevitable; who would blame them, look who is arrayed against .com.

    BUT I wouldn’t bet against America!

    Where you have Freedom, strength, Openness, Truth, Equality, Fairness, Capitalism, Security, Laws, Democracy, which is what dot com represents, in short, United States of America, you have a formidable extension. It won’t be possible to take down.

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 4:09 pm

    Domenclature, I can see the flag fluttering and can hear the Star-Spangled Banner in the background. You almost got me all teared up.

    So the case against .com is a case against America? Are you serious? What are the other TLDs, insurgents? :D

    Thanks for the inspiration, your ‘madness’ is feeding more DomainGang posts.

  • Techno CAT January 30, 2014, 4:23 pm

    Four Symbol .COM domains have a “hidden value” many domainers do not understand. ISPs can save ten thousand dollars per year with a ten dollar registration. That is a compelling business decision.

    FIVE Symbol .NET domains have a similar “hidden value”.

    There was a 6 month run on the .COM domains several years ago when the “hidden value” was revealed

    Twitter has been known to hand over Four Symbol @ Names to .COM owners who ask politely ~ with their lawyer next to them

    It is interesting that ICANN insiders grab [squat] Twitter @ Names when they do not own the companion .COM brand – securing BOTH adds value.

    There is a fear that Registrars will start jacking up the annual fees for .COM domains as the ICANN newGTLD .FIASCO unfolds. The US Government is
    watching that closely. There are pluses and minuses to Free Market Forces.
    Governments can do Price-Fixing but PRIVATE companies like ICANN have
    to avoid that slippery slope.

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 4:25 pm

    “…your ‘madness’ is feeding more DomainGang posts”. -Acro

    That’s fine. It’s not fair to ban me from responding. I have always contributed constructively to “Lucius,” and “Father Domainicus”…

    I have many areas where you and I agree, for example on Sedo, and Godaddy.com.

    And we differ in three major areas:

    1. New gTLDS. I think that it’s too much, and you disagree.

    2. Francois should not tell Domain bloggers that they can’t advertise their domain names on their blogs; in essence, A domain blogger cannot sell his domains on his private domain blog because it will turn Domaining.com into a ‘classified’ website; and that Francois has a family to feed. I am against this, and you are apparently for it. You have NOT stated why you support Francois in this. I believe that the bloggers are not showing any courage, and as Americans we cannot allow fear to determine what we say or do. We have no kings, or dictators. Tell me why Francois can tell any blogger what the content of their blog should be?

    3. Who somebody is, or how successful they are in a field, does not make them infallible. You don’t agree with this I guess.

    Nevertheless, you do agree that you are not that much more popular than I. Nor are you universally beloved, one because you hold opinions, and rant and rave just like me, and show outrage just like me; it is then bizarre for you to attack me. Banning me from your blogs is actually funny, because I do the opposite everyday. I ban blogs!

  • Out of the blue January 30, 2014, 4:40 pm

    As I saw 13 and an half years ago the epic war is started.
    Good to see someone wanting remain a FREE MAN.
    To keep a Free life now all FREE MEN have to fight.
    The fight is against search engines claiming to run generic tlds.
    Be prepare it will be a REAL WAR ALL OVER THE WORLD, also with attacks out of the blue…

  • Morgan January 30, 2014, 4:48 pm

    Wow – very lively discussion on here, thanks for all the great comments everyone, keep em’ coming! :)

  • Johnnie January 30, 2014, 4:54 pm

    “I think if an education startup wants to call themselves “Education Guru” and the .COM owner wants $250,000 and they only have $2,500 then a domain like Education.guru is actually a great choice.”

    I think it’s a poor choice. $250,000 seems a little farfetched for that domain. Another domain blog posts from time to time companies buying .coms for low 4 figures all day long. You’re also not thinking long term and the long term cost of getting a name on an extension most normal people have never heard of, lost traffic to the .com, customer confusion, distrust of something that doesn’t look right etc.

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 4:56 pm

    I don’t think normal people try to sneak in comments like Domenclature did, what do you think?
    —-
    Dear Bloggers & Domainers,

    I need your help. I have been blogging as if I was elected to represent bloggers, and domainers; and I have been soundly criticized for doing so. The truth of the matter is that domainers have no such structure, or representation, and because of that, we are taken for granted, and disrespected everyday.

    I, therefore, have come to you, humbly, to help me in a battle, a battle that has been brewing for a while now; I am the underdog in this battle; I am fighting this battle for the true domainer, and the independent blogger; my antagonists are mighty men: Berkens and Francois. These two are very popular, and have pedigrees way beyond my reach; they have impeccable backgrounds in the domaining community, and have contributed more than I have, positively to our industry; however, this time around I have something they lack: righteousness.

    Berkens and Francois has super-imposed a Ticker of new gTLDs, commonly known as .whatevers on both domaining.com, and thedomains.com, and are charging these people over $500 for each string per month, and they did it disrespectfully, to domainers who are still asking questions about these extensions. I canceled my subscription to thedomains.com in protest.

    Francois will NOT allow bloggers to advertise their private domain names on their blogs. And he has no respect for domainers.

    Therefore, I’m asking you to take a stand. Help me. I am no match for these two, but with you, they will both need to respect this industry.

    If you are a blogger, I am asking that you ban Francois from your feed, and use NameBee.com or the other adroit services, and I also want you to boycott thedomains.com for me, until they both take down the ticker.

    Thank you.

  • Techno CAT January 30, 2014, 5:02 pm

    Anyone interested in HELPING to improve [preserve] the value of .COM might
    want to help RESTORE .COM to the PRE-ICANN Thick-Registry model…

    Verisign is tasked to do that…you could then bypass the Registrars and deal
    directly with Verisign [and likely the US Government].

    The US Government holds the legal cards to restore .COM to the better
    PRE-ICANN models. ICANN would not get any more .COM taxes [they created].

    Obama has announced he plans to use Executive Orders to make things so.
    Obama has also openly expressed his disdain for the Cayman Islands domains.

    Verisign would likely support a grass-roots movement to FREE .COM from
    the ICANN Train.Wreck. Now that ICANN is swimming in .CASH they likely
    could not care less.

    USA NTIA has edict-ed that .COM $7.85 will be in place until 2015.
    Americans can lobby their ELECTED leaders to protect .COM

    ICANN leaders are not elected – they are cronies of the DNS Clerics
    who like to display their big egos several times per year at five star hotel
    conferences…

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 5:21 pm

    @Acro,

    I posted that on many platform, and blogs. It was not done in a sneaky fashion.

    many Bloggers are afraid, and can’t leave that post open. I don’t blame them.

    I see you are avoiding answering the question i posed to you. Do you think that Bloggers, who are mostly domainers with names to sell, should be banned from advertising their names, and risk being removed from the lineup by Francois, should that be the case? Answer me.

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 5:46 pm

    Domenclature – you lost the opportunity and your credibility, when you flip-flopped on attending NamesCon. I guess it’s safe for one to ramble behind a keyboard but never set foot on a public gathering.

    Your comment that you spammed left and right is great fodder for psychiatric evaluation; Robin Hood syndrome perhaps?

    Listen, I am not saying you’re some evil dude, but you need some urgent help.

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 6:10 pm

    Regardless of your insults, there’s yet value in engaging you head on as i’m doing here. You butted into this post, but you are incapable of staying focused on the issues; it is not your thing to debate without gossip, or ad hominem. But try. See if you can.

    Like i was explaining to Linton before you rudely injected yourself into the debate:

    Domaining is like owning Land. Just land. It doesn’t have to be developed. A domainer doesn’t have to leave the comfort and safety of his keyboard; A domainer doesn’t have to attend domain conferences, or develop their domain name into a big successful website; a domainer doesn’t have to embrace or be a part of a start-up; or own an run a nursery.

    A domainer just only need to own a domain name.

    The internet is a virtual world. Whereas friendship, and camaraderie is a good thing, it is not a must.

    By you attending domain conferences, does NOT make you a super-domainer.

    Every time I go to a basketball game in Los Angeles, and have to park my car in the lot adjacent to the Staple center, I am reminded of how much domaining has in common with Real Estate: the land owner doesn’t have to do anything; the better the location the more you can get for your land, even if you have nothing on it. I pay, sometimes, over $5 just to park in a vacant land across from the game site! I don’t know who owns the land; the owner doesn’t have to go to a land conference to be a landowner.

    If you seek friendships and meetings, Acro, you must adjust your methods. Stop going after people’s credibility. Thank you.

  • Joe January 30, 2014, 6:13 pm

    Great Post @ Morgan focus as you know what is right for your business and give you the reason . I myself have a portfolio to record and purchased over 200 domains. Com , most be two words , but first prefer to sell the box to give then to purchase treasury Com domains with traffic. and some more for very best and to put in a domain paking for ue of money each month with which to invest in the purchase of other domain names . com with traffic, change my approach to future business, is what I should have done before but learn a lot and of course a book to start reading.

    Contact with a wholesaler who very possibly reach agreement soon and the price also be much more interesting now to see what you write “Brand domain names” the lawyer send prices for that long but do not look back now and see , I send then email to protect the best and ultimately take more money from the traffic , the rest for sale next week.

    I think it’s best to stop gTLD hand, they are more than 1000 and is crazy goals in the same time, I see some sales . COM and be very important , not as the beginning of the beginning before, but very good price to pay for them today .

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 6:14 pm

    That will be $50 not $5 for parking…

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 6:18 pm

    Domenclature – My methods go back to the year 1997 when I registered my first .com. Having sold 1400 domains I have all the experience I need to be confident in what I do, and will continue doing it. I am also a real person, with a full set of eyes, despite what my avatar shows. As a developer, I also know what customers need: more options, and gTLDs will offer just that.

    But why am I attempting to have a reasonable conversation with you, when you seem to be a self imposed Robin Hood? I love the part where you ‘quit’ Mike Berkens’s blog. Really? Quitting something that is open for free, to anyone, sounds as great as self-immolation. Maybe you need to do just that.

    And let’s not forget how nasty you were towards Elliot Silver, for not disclosing how much he paid for DomainInvesting.com.

    So to recap: you have no track record of anything, and you’re just an annoyance to many. To prove me wrong, let me know which domain conference you plan to attend.

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 6:28 pm

    We are in your element, that will be the mud with this dyadic exercise. I believe the host has been more than generous.

    It’s time to demand answers from you. Go back to all the comments I posted above, and answer the questions posed. I know you are basically a troll, but sometimes it’s good to engage one. At other times, it’s time to disengage with one.

  • Acro January 30, 2014, 6:41 pm

    Domenclature – The pot calling the kettle black. :D

    I am so much of a troll that I physically show up at domain conferences, where I back up everything I stand for: common sense and zero bullshit.

    Sorry pal, you’re not off the hook yet: tell us what .com domains you own, other than Domenclature.com. It might help you realize you haven’t amounted to anything yet.

  • Domenclature.com January 30, 2014, 7:20 pm

    @Acro,

    I don’t think your Francois has ever attended a domain conference, yet you show him some respect.

    As Americans, what we own does NOT define us. We claim, and we believe that all Human Beings are created equal, and and are so endowed by their Creator, with in-Alienable rights…Among those are Live, Liberty, and Pursuit of happiness..

    We don’t worship any man because of the nature of their domain names, or their castles.

    If you’re right’cha right.

    Your domain names do NOT confer extra respect on you, or lack of a good domain names do NOT make you less of a Citizen.

  • Mike January 30, 2014, 10:57 pm

    Acro, you have sold 1400 domains since 1997? Okay, let’s check the math :

    17 years x 365 days = 6,205 days (’97 to ’13)
    6,205 days ÷ 1,400 domain sales = A sale every 4.43 days for 17 years.

    That also averages out to 82.39 domains per year sold.

    If the common banter in domainer circles is that portfolios have a turnover rate of 1-2% each year, and if that is true, you’d need a portfolio of equal quality to these other portfolios comprising of 8,239 domains at a 1% sales rate to get 82.39 sold, or 4,119.5 domains at a 2% sales rate. And remember, you had to have that many domains in the 90′s or a huge multiple of these numbers in more recent years to attain your sales numbers, unless you are just about handing your domains away for free.

    You should go check your sales numbers again. :)

  • Acro January 31, 2014, 8:52 am

    Mike – Read carefully, it usually helps comprehend. I *registered* my first domain in 1997. I have sold 1341 domains (sorry, rounded it to 1400 I guess) since my first sale in 2000.

    Sorry to bust your math myth, I am simply prolific like that. You will learn a lot by *carefully* reading my blog; I often share techniques that others ignore. Also, I attend domain conferences and gatherings, unlike those that b*tch and moan all the time.

    PS Add a domain link for me to understand who you are; if you are worthy enough, I will email you a list of my sold domains.

  • Nick January 31, 2014, 9:22 am

    This is the most entertaining post in quite some time Morgan! Thanks!

    By the way, @Techno CAT, what is a 4 “symbol” dot com? Do you mean 4 character (number or letter) dot com? Also, what is this “hidden value”?

  • It doesn't matter January 31, 2014, 9:28 am

    “As Americans, what we own does NOT define us. We claim, and we believe that all Human Beings are created equal, and and are so endowed by their Creator, with in-Alienable rights…Among those are Live, Liberty, and Pursuit of happiness..

    We don’t worship any man because of the nature of their domain names, or their castles.

    If you’re right’cha right.

    Your domain names do NOT confer extra respect on you, or lack of a good domain names do NOT make you less of a Citizen.”

    These are words, but of course these are words too much high for little people.

    What a ridicolous person is that Acro (yes I use the third person because I am replying to you, but one post only, only this time, no more for people like you, I will not go down to your level never, sorry, you are not a Man, you are a puppet, even if you are a puppet with a name and a puppet that goes to conference) . He goes to conference! Wow, what a great man! He goes to conference WOW!!!!! What a great man ahahahahahhhh :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    This is the life: two greeks, him and Konstantinos of onlinedomain.com, one that is the first to offend and make reasonings like a child and one that love freedom and doesn’t make censorship like many others instead do, ACRO MORE THAN ALL THE OTHERS!

  • Acro January 31, 2014, 6:47 pm

    Blah blah blah – Anonymous drivel. The usual jerkoffs that are scared little pussies to discuss their problems signed by a real name, real email etc.

    The best advice ever was given to me by the great late Igal Lichtman: “Those that don’t like what you do, fuck them.”

  • HowieCrosby February 1, 2014, 4:11 am

    Acro, I don’t know the in’s and out’s of the Berken’s and Francois case, and can’t find anything online, however, as a positive domaining.com still post’s your work online. ;)

  • HowieCrosby February 1, 2014, 4:41 am

    Hi Morgan! Mmmm, I’m sure you’ve have had a few battles with these gTLD’s over the last few months.

    The reason I say this, as some time back, you blogged the same rhetoric, however soon after, you were more positive and pro gTLD’s for the domainer, now it seems you are reverting back to the pessimistic.

    I’ll let you know how I feel, at what percentage end user/client does the domainer sell their domain name to a start up company? I don’t know the stats, but you know as well as I do, that part of your business is selling to end users/clients and a majority of those are start ups! And I right?

    Even if this is not the case, of course startups buy aftermarket domain names!

    So if the new gTLD is a NON investment for the domainer, then just let the start up buy it from under your nose. I understand startups don’t all have huge capital investments, but it’s also the expanding business too. The enterprise.

    But we need to get one thing straight, tons of these gTLDS will suck and will be terrible investments, it’s going to take a great strategy to select the correct few premium catchy one word gTLD’s that have been reserved etc, or if you have to bid for, that will hold a market value, without question. Just like premium private licence plates.

    That’s why I think some of these gTLD’s are going to be wise investments.
    Just watch the Auctions/Marketplaces 2015/17… New World!

    Thanks for listening, please accept this comment purely as my opinion.

  • HowieCrosby February 1, 2014, 6:07 am

    NameBee.com – I never knew about NameBee.com and the option over domaining.com, Morgan, I was a little confused when I noticed your feed is allocated to Domainvestors.tv ? on NameBee.com but noticed it redirects, would be good to see the Morgan thumbnail ;)

  • Techno CAT February 2, 2014, 2:47 pm

    what is a 4 “symbol” dot com? Do you mean 4 character (number or letter) dot com? Also, what is this “hidden value”?
    ——————————–
    SuperBowl Ad – Imagine there is ONLY .COM….the New Root….everything can be staged from .COM….

    Imagine “Symbols” can be made with ASCII Characters

    http:// xn--lba.com

    4 character (number or letter) ….chosen from 32 choices [0,A-Z,12389]
    …in other words – avoid 4,5,6,7 and of course dash…
    under_scores in .COM domains is another story….

    NOTE: You can Lease your Rights from 4 Symbol .COM domains without selling the domains. As with any real estate, or CyberSpace, three things matter:
    Location, Location, Location….

  • Igor Mironyuk February 3, 2014, 3:29 am

    @Morgan, you made an error – teamwork.com sold not for $650000. This domain sold for $675000

  • Techno CAT February 3, 2014, 8:22 am

    FIVE Symbols .NET domains also have UNIQUE Value….

    FIVE character (number or letter) ….chosen from 32 choices [0,A-Z,12389]

    You then “own” a UNIQUE piece of CyberSpace….called a /25

    ….why pay ARIN ~ ICANN ~ IANA $$$$ yearly for “uniqueness” ?
    save $32,000 per year….

    Twitter.com/Techno_Cat_R

  • Nick February 3, 2014, 1:32 pm

    Wow @Techno CAT. That is some technical stuff! Its way over my head though. Wish I understood that stuff.

  • alex February 23, 2014, 6:02 pm

    lot of people have invested so much money on .com this is why they are against new gtld and they live in denial .
    like it not, there are going to be over 1500 new gtld you are telling me that they all gonna fail? world of domain is going to changed pretty soon either you like it or not.
    i dont consider myself a domainer , I have my own camera store
    as a person who is not professional in domain industry (like most of the world)
    if they give me an option to pick shopcamera.com domain or shop.camera i will take shop.camera in a heartbeat
    you guys are looking at this in professional way but normal people like me, they want the best and cheapest domain for their business. something cheap,brandable and easy to remember

  • Nick February 24, 2014, 6:41 pm

    @alex: “there are going to be over 1500 new gtld you are telling me that they all gonna fail?”

    yep. they are.

    90% of the people in this world know “dot com” and thats it. 90% of your customers are going to instinctively key in “shop.camera.com”.

    the only people winning with these new gTLDs are the gtld domain names + “.com” at the end. So in your example SHOP.CAMERA.COM because that is what most will type in.

    Try it with your friends and family. They’ll say “what? you want me to go to shop.camera or shop.camera.com? ” If you’re not there to correct them then guess what they’ll type in.

  • alex February 24, 2014, 6:50 pm

    @Nick
    only time shows, there is no way to prove who is right at this moment , changes are not going to happen over night, you are expecting too much from people who wont know much about domains and you expect them to learn the difference between .com and other gtld domains over night. after 1500 new extension ,everyone willl force to learn the difference
    mark my word, these new gtld domain will change the world

  • Nick February 24, 2014, 8:03 pm

    @alex: we will have to disagree. :-)

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