Beware Of Domain Appraisal Scams – What To Look For

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Like most bloggers I pay attention to which posts get the most visitors and comments months after they were written. One of the top five most active posts that I’ve put on this blog is about a domain appraisal scam that I encountered back in March. The comment section of the post has become a database of emails sent by scammers to domain owners, attempting to get them to fall for the domain appraisal scam.

Thanks to my post, life has become more difficult for scammers as more and more people have written in either sharing another scam email, or reporting that they avoided it. I think it’s important to keep topics like this fresh so that anyone who may have not read my post earlier this year can still avoid getting scammed. There is no reason these scammers should be making a dime if we can all educate the community about what is going on.

So if this is your first time hearing about the domain appraisal scam, here’s what to look out for.

How To Spot A Domain Appraisal Scam

 

  • The scammer usually poses as an interested buyer for one of your domains
  • The email will state that in order to buy the domain, the buyer would like a manual appraisal process
  • They will then recommend some service to get appraisals, and a blog post about the service
  • Both the appraisal site and blog are owned by them, this is a scam
  • Their goal is to get you to submit an appraisal, once you do they disappear

I first encountered this scam back in 2008 and definitely want to make sure that newcomers to the industry beware. These emails prey on the emotional response people have, just think about it, someone wants to buy one of your domains for $25,000. What do you do? Maybe you go out and celebrate, tell your family or friends, it could be a big event.

You then think, what’s a $79 appraisal? Even if it says my domain is worth only $15,000 this would still be great! That’s where they get you. Veteran Domainers can spot these from far away but new investors can easily get excited about an offer on a domain, especially if they don’t get many offers.

Just know that no serious buyer will ask for one of these appraisals, and if in the rare case that they do, they’ll never ask you to use one that you haven’t heard of. If an buyer pushes for an appraisal I would recommend you point them towards someone like Afternic where the price is low (only $25) and you can be 100% certain that you are getting a real appraisal.

Avoid the domain appraisal scam and help spread the word so we can stop these scams once and for all!

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  • Rick Schwartz July 17, 2012, 2:56 pm

    The only way to stop all these scams is for domainers not to embrace appraisal services at all.
    Sorry, there is no domain appraisal service that is bonafide. Period! NONE! To “me” they are all bogus and have no value other than for entertainment. Any email referencing an appraisal in any way, shape or form should just be discarded. Any domainer referencing an appraisal should not be take seriously. Few in the world are qualified to give an appraisal and none happen to be working for appraisal companies. That is my strong opinion and have stated so for many years.

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  • Don M July 17, 2012, 5:38 pm

    I second that.

    It only hurts the value of domain names.

    How they possibly take in account the value of a life time visitor when the service has no idea what your business is about. JMO

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  • ADvermain - Mike Grala July 18, 2012, 6:42 am

    I’ve had so many of those emails its ridiculous. Like Rick said “Any domainer referencing an appraisal should not be take seriously.” If one is so interested in your domain they will pay what ever they think it’s worth regardless of what an appraisal service values that domain. The first time I received an appraisal scam email I was pretty new to domaining, once he asked ME to pay for an aprraisal I told him straight up “If you assume this domain name is so beneficial to your business then an appraisal would not matter.” I knew what he was up to even though I never seen a blog post or heard about the scam. Use common sense.

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  • TF July 18, 2012, 8:32 am

    These are the best articles Morgan. Short, sweet and informative.

    Reply
  • Katherine August 5, 2012, 3:02 pm

    I agree that “professional appraisals” don’t mean much. The true value of the domain is the value that it brings to the end user’s business. A premium domain name can bring instant credibility to a business if it is properly targeted. If it makes sense as a brand and it’s memorable, it will help get customers to your website. That’s what matters.

    Companies spend millions on advertising every year. An effective domain name is part of a company’s brand image and a critical part of a good marketing campaign. The cost of most domain names is often much less than these companies spend on actual advertising.

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  • Dai November 25, 2012, 10:11 am

    I received an attempted scam from a David Rodberg, purporting to be to CEO of NH Solutions.

    His email address is: ceo@net-hosting-solutions.com

    The attempted scam appraisal site is: http://go-appraiser.com

    The web forum used and much of the email text is the same as in previous posts.

    The net-hosting-solutions.com domain he uses has only been registered for a few days.

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  • Ed December 25, 2012, 1:50 pm

    Further to what Dai wrote, I just got a similar email offering me $12,000 for my domain, though the details are trivially different.

    Tom Zeifang claims to be the “Former CEO of Name Magazine and Internet Tools”.
    His email is: internet-team@net-hosting-solutions.com

    Again, as per Dai, Tom asked me to visit this newly registered scam appraisal site that appears to have been designed by a child: http://go-appraiser.com

    The forum post he refers to is at: http://www.seven-forums.com/Archive/382617905.htm
    I tried to search the subject of his post via the main website with no luck, and that’s what led me to believe something was fishy. Later, I came across an identical forum post but with “David Rodberg” instead of Tom Zeifang. The other co-conspirators Pawan et al appear identically in both forum posts. Another tip-off was where Tom said he sent Pawan $4,000+ for 3 of his domain names via PayPal. And, they hadn’t even gone through escrow.com yet!

    Seller beware!

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  • Rob January 6, 2013, 3:10 am

    I’ve just had this guy contact me. His first email looked like a genuine enquiry so I replied and a week or so later, I received this…

    I offer 12,000 usd. I have 95,000 usd budget for 10-15 domains.

    What are your payment details?

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably we know each
    other under some nicknames?

    I’m going to invest in hosting, adult and online shopping related names.

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  • Steven January 22, 2013, 4:21 pm

    A guy calling himself David Rotman emailed me saying he was very interested in buying one of my domains listed on Sedo. This person used the email rotman@lowcost-hosting.com and after a couple of emails back and fourth, he now seems more interested in getting my domain appraised at a site called http://go-appraiser.com by giving me the link http://tinyurl.com/goappraiser. The website he sent me to doesn’t even have the current year on the footer, a contact number, and the domain go-appraiser.com was just registered 2 months ago! He constantly requests that I have my domain checked for trademark infringement at this website!

    HERE’S A COPY OF THE EMAIL HE SENT ME… (what a great salesman… NOT!)
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    From: “Rotman”
    Date: Tue, January 22, 2013 10:56 am

    Very good but Sedo appraisal service does not include the trademark infringement verification. So it’s not acceptable in our case.

    Many experienced sellers suggested http://tinyurl.com/goappraiser. They provide the free trademark infringement verification with the appraisal service. They are also doing a much more in depth analysis.

    Best regards,
    David Rotman
    CEO
    ——————————————————————————————————————–

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  • Nirav Dedhia February 8, 2013, 3:07 am

    Aaron Waldmer wrote
    “Before we go further I need one small thing from you. I need an official
    appraisal of your domain so I will see the price is reasonable and based
    on the last market trends.
    Please don’t worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes of your time to order
    it. Then you will simply resend me the appraisal results via email.
    Of course, I need a good in depth analysis made by experts but not an
    automated free service. Without it we both can’t be sure in the price.
    I need the trademark verification too. Just a formality to be sure you
    have no problems with trademarks. Good companies offers this as a part of
    appraisal.
    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the
    forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.
    Please read this information:
    http://www.seven-forums.net/Archive/507836419.htm
    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you
    send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to
    get the results) we’ll be doing business”

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  • Waqar February 8, 2013, 9:27 am

    Thanks for the post save my time ,

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  • Stefan February 14, 2013, 6:17 am

    Thanks to this site I escaped from the appraisal scam… Hereby you find the corresponding scam mails… I’ve sent him a reaction after I read the comments on this site and guess no answer…

    Dear Mr Waldman,

    When I google the URL the first results talks about scam. Also they have copied some mails in the reactions. Your name is also listed in it.
    http://morganlinton.com/beware-of-domain-appraisal-scams-what-to-look-for/

    Can you send me more detailed information about your company before we go any further?

    Thanks in advance,

    Kind regards,

    From: waldman@vip-hosting-server.org
    Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 21:13:56 +0400

    I’m not a novice in this business.

    As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a reasonable practice.

    I’ve found not all the appraisals are accurate and provide the trademark infringement verification.

    As to the most known brands: the more orders the company gets, the less time they can afford to spend on each appraisal.

    I wanted to use Afternic.com but looks like this company has a bad reputation. Afternic’s appraisal service has a lot of bad reviews.

    I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com. It costs – $200/hour and they don’t offer trademark infringement verification.

    Many experienced sellers suggested http://tinyurl.com/goappraiser. as a trustworthy manual service. They provide a free trademark infringement verification. We’ve read only positive comments about them.
    Best regards,
    Aaron Waldman
    CEO
    —– Original Message —–
    To: waldman@vip-hosting-server.org
    Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:30 PM

    Dear Mr Waldman,

    I accept your offer.

    Payment can be done by bank transfer.
    When payment is done I’ll pass code for transferring domain.

    I own several domain names although this is the first time I sell 1 of my domains.
    It sounds you are familiar with trading in domain names.
    You may always inform me for any important detail.

    Kind regards,

    From: waldman@vip-hosting-server.org
    Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:08:35 +0400

    Stefan,

    I offer 17500 usd. How can I send you the money? If this is your first time domain sale I may
    help you with the process.

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably we know each
    other under some nicknames?

    Best regards,
    Aaron Waldman
    CEO
    —– Original Message —–
    To: waldman@vip-hosting-server.org
    Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:08 PM

    Dear Mr Waldman,

    You can make me an open offer.

    Kind regards,

    > From: waldman@vip-hosting-server.org
    > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:01:09 -0700
    >
    > Hello!
    >
    > I’m very interested in purchasing xxxxxxxxxxx.com.
    >
    > I found this domain listed for sale on Sedo.
    >
    > Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject (in USD, Euros or UK pounds).
    >
    > If you have other names for sale please email me your domain list with prices.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Aaron Waldman
    >
    > CEO
    >
    > VIP Hosting Solutions Inc

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  • Dale February 17, 2013, 12:48 am

    I just had the same email from VIP-hosting-server.org, only the CEO was David Vroman.

    Google, Yahoo, Microsoft if your listening, please block this domain from your index and add it to you email black lists

    dvroman@vip-hosting-server.org

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  • Frank Mueller February 24, 2013, 12:01 pm

    Hi,

    I’m a fool and I did the appraisal before seeing this webiste.
    The guy contacting me is David Vroman from dvroman@vip-hosting-server.org.

    Here is his answer after I did the appraisal:

    Von: Vroman [mailto:vroman@vip-hosting-server.org]
    Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Februar 2013 15:32
    An: Frank Mueller
    Betreff: Re: Domain Appraisal

    Great. I accept your evaluation certificate. Looks very professional.

    There is a small problem with the direct transfer. My client invested money
    in other domains and asked to wait for 30-40 days. Then he promises to
    buy. If I buy direct from you I won’t be able to sell for two months.
    ICANN regulations prohibit transferring domains for two months after
    registration or changing ownership. I have no development plans for the
    domain. I’m going to resell it to make a profit.

    Anyway, you will be paid for the domain. I have several potential buyers.
    One of them is going to buy the domain but he can make a payment in one
    month.

    Let’s do the following. I will ask him about making a deposit. Ok?

    I also suggest you not to wait for one month. I’m sure I can sell faster if
    you agree with my commission rate. I will work for 15-17% upon every sale.
    I’m very good in sales and will earn us good cash.

    Please don’t worry. It won’t cost you anything. The buyer will pay my
    commission. He will pay 85% to you and 15% to me.

    May I use your valuation certificate in the promotion?

    I also don’t require exclusive rights to sell your domains. You may list
    them with other sites and promote via domains wanted ads or other services.
    I get my commission if I sell earlier (before you sell it).

    Let me know what you think about my offer. I hope to continue doing business
    with you.
    Best regards,
    David Vroman
    CEO

    So what’s coming next?

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  • Rete March 12, 2013, 12:30 pm

    And here is the newest! Many thanks for this warning.

    Von: Holderman [mailto:holderman@web-hosting-clue.org]
    Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 19:19
    Betreff: Re: AW: waschmaschinentest.com

    Before we go further I will ask about two small things:

    1. We both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don’t worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

    2. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It’s important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. You should not worry about it. You don’t need to pay for this trademark verification service. Some good appraisers include this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    http://www.seven-forums.net/Archive/1634925075.htm

    Most of experts recommend official ICAAN appraisal service. The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the official ICAAN appraisal site and order the valuation. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we’ll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we’ll be doing business.
    Best regards,
    Jacob Holderman
    CEO

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  • Ariel kaminski April 10, 2013, 7:34 pm

    Everything repeats itself, but the names change and the same tactic, my advice victim of these scam evaluation before giving them to impose their conditions, the appraiser of your choice, and the price and sales and fixed and immutable, do not waste your time first of all check the origin of contact, verify the name, get the address, care of Tom Zeifang him and one of them, internet-team@net-hosting-solutions.com http://www.seven-forums.com/ this Archive/382617905.htm coup and his (secretary named Sandra) use the collection service from SWREG Info , this company that in my opinion should be responsible to reimburse us the injury and take legal action against scammers who use their services for sending and Charging.

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  • Peter Van Hout April 12, 2013, 9:52 am

    David Vroman (or whatever name he uses) also has this on the inet:
    http://pastebin.com/c8v5z24N
    http://pastebin.com/ugev4WWJ
    Some good words about him, from his customers.

    You can also call the Bank Card Company/Atos Worldline or the one responsible for your credit card.
    Also fill in this form: https://www.swreg.org/app/contactus/ to make a complaint against him.

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  • Tracy Gilpin April 16, 2013, 12:59 am

    Hi all,
    just to let you know this week he’s called Robert Meerman as is apparently CEO of Live Web Hosting LLC at live-host.org (domain name oddly enough registered a couple of weeks ago). Everything else is exactly the same as above, just cut and pasted. He’s even doing in Thai, not just English.
    Ditto the previous remarks about SWREG being the scam-fee collector of choice and their liability in this issue.

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  • Tracy Gilpin May 29, 2013, 2:39 am

    Further to my previous comment, if you get caught out chase up SWREG, explain the situation and they WILL refund. Don’t let the scammers get away with it.

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  • shentu August 9, 2013, 10:20 am

    I also eccountered one cheater:

    Name: Jacob Dorman
    Email: dorman@asp-net-hosting.org
    website: http:// http://ww.icaan.info
    Paypal Account: accredited-appraisal.org(info@accredited-appraisal.org)

    My EUR 58 was stolen, the emails are as following:

    1)

    Hello!

    I represent a rich investor from Dubai. He is interested in buying XXXXX. net
    Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.
    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,
    Jacob Dorman
    Domain Name Realtor
    ASP Hosting Net Services

    2)

    My client offers 10,000 usd. Do you sell a domain (not a web site)?
    He has 150,000 usd budget for several domain names.
    How can we pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.
    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?
    He is going to invest in hosting, adult and online shopping related names.

    3)

    Before we go further my client needs only one thing:
    Please send us an official certificate of market price (appraisal). He needs an appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It’s important for us to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won’t be a problem for you since some official appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a bonus to the appraisal service. It will take only 2 minutes to order it.
    Please don’t worry – the appraisal value will be very good. You won’t get a low figure. I work with an official appraisal company. I send them clients and they appraise names at the values I need. My client is a rich person and I work on a commission basis. So I’m not interested in low figure appraisals too.
    Just order the service and email them your domains with the comment that you have a buyer with $X,XXX offer and you need the appraisal near this value.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in the forum about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:
    http://www.cnet-forum.biz/Archive/05238149764.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.
    2. Send these results via email and we’ll proceed with the deal.
    If you are new to the appraisal process I can help you with a step by step instruction.

    4)

    Great. I accept your evaluation certificate. Looks very professional.

    There is a small problem with the direct transfer. My client invested money in other domains and asked to wait for 30-40 days. Then he promises to buy. If I buy direct from you I won’t be able to sell for two months. The domain industry regulations prohibit transferring domains for two months after registration or changing ownership. I have no development plans for the domain. I’m going to resell it to make a profit.

    Anyway, you will be paid for the domain. I have several potential buyers. One of them is going to buy the domain but he can make a payment in one month.

    Let’s do the following. I will ask him about making a deposit. Ok?

    I also suggest you not to wait for one month. I’m sure I can sell faster if you agree with my commission rate. I will work for 15-17% upon every sale. I’m very good in sales and will earn us good cash.

    Please don’t worry. It won’t cost you anything. The buyer will pay my commission. He will pay 85% to you and 15% to me.

    May I use your valuation certificate in the promotion?

    I also don’t require exclusive rights to sell your domains. You may list them with other sites and promote via domains wanted ads or other services. I get my commission if I sell earlier (before you sell it).

    Let me know what you think about my offer. I hope to continue doing business with you.

    Reply
  • shentu August 9, 2013, 10:58 am

    I also encoutered appraisal scam these days, my EUR 58 was stolen.
    The cheater’s information:
    Name: Jacob Dorman
    Email: Dorman
    Website: http://agency.icaan.info
    PayPal: info@accredited-appraisal.org

    Their emails are as following:

    1)

    I represent a rich investor from Dubai. He is interested in buying esong.net.

    Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Jacob Dorman
    Domain Name Realtor
    ASP Hosting Net Services
    ***************************
    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.

    2)

    He has 150,000 usd budget for several domain names.

    How can we pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?

    He is going to invest in hosting, adult and online shopping related names.

    3)

    Before we go further my client needs only one thing:

    Please send us an official certificate of market price (appraisal). He needs an appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It’s important for us to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won’t be a problem for you since some official appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a bonus to the appraisal service. It will take only 2 minutes to order it.

    Please don’t worry – the appraisal value will be very good. You won’t get a low figure. I work with an official appraisal company. I send them clients and they appraise names at the values I need. My client is a rich person and I work on a commission basis. So I’m not interested in low figure appraisals too.

    Just order the service and email them your domains with the comment that you have a buyer with $X,XXX offer and you need the appraisal near this value.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in the forum about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:
    http://www.cnet-forum.biz/Archive/05238149764.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Send these results via email and we’ll proceed with the deal.

    If you are new to the appraisal process I can help you with a step by step instruction.

    4)

    Great. I accept your evaluation certificate. Looks very professional.

    There is a small problem with the direct transfer. My client invested money in other domains and asked to wait for 30-40 days. Then he promises to buy. If I buy direct from you I won’t be able to sell for two months. The domain industry regulations prohibit transferring domains for two months after registration or changing ownership. I have no development plans for the domain. I’m going to resell it to make a profit.

    Anyway, you will be paid for the domain. I have several potential buyers. One of them is going to buy the domain but he can make a payment in one month.

    Let’s do the following. I will ask him about making a deposit. Ok?

    I also suggest you not to wait for one month. I’m sure I can sell faster if you agree with my commission rate. I will work for 15-17% upon every sale. I’m very good in sales and will earn us good cash.

    Please don’t worry. It won’t cost you anything. The buyer will pay my commission. He will pay 85% to you and 15% to me.

    May I use your valuation certificate in the promotion?

    I also don’t require exclusive rights to sell your domains. You may list them with other sites and promote via domains wanted ads or other services. I get my commission if I sell earlier (before you sell it).

    Let me know what you think about my offer. I hope to continue doing business with you.

    Reply
  • Michelle September 21, 2013, 9:22 am

    I HAVE A NEW ONE (he is vile – specifically the predatory nature of this guy)

    Ok. Great! Before we go further my client needs one thing from you:

    Please send us an official certificate of market price (appraisal). He needs an appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It’s important for us to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won’t be a problem for you since some official appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a bonus to the appraisal service. It will take only 2 minutes to order it.

    Without the appraisal we cannot be 100% sure in the final sale price. The appraisal will help determine the true value of your domain’s worth so you can maximize profits during the sale. On the other hand, it will minimize our risks too.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in the forum about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:
    http://www.cnet-forum.biz/Archive/72905816431.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Send these results via email and we’ll proceed with the deal.

    If you are new to the appraisal process I can help you with a step by step instructions.

    Best regards,

    Michael Schwartzman

    Domain Realtor

    Asp Web Hosting

    Switzerland
    Basel
    am krayenrain 5
    Phone: 0041763987747
    http://www.asp-web-hosting.biz

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  • Dan December 4, 2013, 4:10 am

    Just got hit myself.
    Look out from valuation services which use false “reliable” domain names.
    Lookout from people who pose to be from country x and have uncorroborated email addresses.
    Lookout from people who “represent” other people…
    Lookout from trademark “warnings”…
    No domain valuation is logical in the real world.

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  • Leon January 21, 2014, 1:06 am

    Thanks for this great article.

    I had the same last night in my e-mail box. They disappear once you ask them to pay the appraisal themselves.


    Hello!

    I represent a wealthy investor from Shanghai (China) who wants to purchase ********com.

    Please respond and specify a desired price in the subject line.

    My client has 420,000 usd budget for 50-60 domains. He is very interested in financial, shopping, adult, gambling, mobile phones and weight loss related domains.

    Please let us know your preferred payment method (PayPal, Western Union, escrow etc.). If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?

    Regards,

    Michael Duncan

    Director of Investor Relations

    Riehenring 119
    4058
    Basel
    Switzerland
    Phone: 0041763987181

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  • PPP April 19, 2014, 12:48 am

    Be aware of this new scam site: http://icann-appraisal.org
    Some Poland guy has just bought the domain and is trying to convince people that he is a website broker and that his client wants to buy you website but only if you buy the certificate from the website: http://icann-appraisal.org
    SCAM
    SCAM

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  • Alex June 11, 2014, 9:28 am

    Just received this email! Clearly a Scam, be careful if you receive the same!

    Hello!

    I’m a broker of a private investor from Canada. He wants to buy unitedstatesbetting.com.

    My client has $391,000 budget for 25-35 domains. Please specify your asking price in the subject of your message.

    Our company is in hosting and web development business. We also help our clients to sell and by domain names. If you have other domains for sale please email me the list. I may offer your domains to my clients.

    How can we transfer money to you (escrow, wire, Paypal or Western Union)?

    I can also help you with the transfer process.

    Best Regards,

    Roland Kernen

    Vice President Investor Relations | Web Information Solutions

    Switzerland
    Basel
    Centralbahnstrasse 21
    Phone: 061 208 34 49

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  • Panos September 18, 2014, 11:56 am

    I have a new one from contact@solutions-web.info!! He calls himself DOMAIN BROKER!!!

    Enjoy it

    Hello!

    I’m a representative of an investor from Oslo (Norway). He is interested in buying xxxxxxxx.xxx

    My client has $462,000 budget for several domains. Please respond and add your price to the subject line.

    If you have other domains please let me know. I may help you to find buyers.

    How do you want to get paid? Escrow, Wire or Paypal?

    Best Regards,

    Dan Holtzman

    Vice President | VP Space Solutions

    Switzerland
    Bern
    xxxxxxxxx 7
    Phone:xxxxxxxxxc

    I asked him 20.000 dollars !! Here is his replay

    $20000 – Ok.

    Before we proceed with the sale my client needs only one thing from you:

    My client is an experienced investor and he buys certified domains only to avoid potential risks with trademarks and overpriced/stolen domains. So simple certificates from GoDaddy or Sedo do not suit the needs of my client. He needs a complete certification with a valuation and a trademark infringement verification.

    The proper certification contains three points:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. It will show your domain name is not overpriced. On the other hand if the valuation comes higher we will increase the price accordingly.

    2. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems.

    3. Verification of the owner. It proves you are a legitimate owner and your domain has no any obligations and restrictions. I’m sure that you are a legitimate owner so it will be only a formality.

    If your domain has been certified please email me the certificate and we will proceed with the sale. If you don’t have the certificate it’s not a problem. I may send you a link where you can obtain it. You can read about the certificate agency at http://support.archive-google.com/archive/threadview107485.htm (“Domain Broker” is my nickname).
    .
    Please don’t worry. It takes 1-2 minutes to order it. The results will be sent to you within 24 hours. Then you send me the certificate via email and we’ll proceed with the sale As a broker I’m very interested in a good valuation part of this certificate because my client pays me a commission (10-15% of the sale price) on every domain purchase. So I’m not interested in a low price too.

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site and order a certificate. Just submit your domains and let them know you have a buyer with $X,XXX offer and need a valuation near this value. After several hours you will get the results. If the price in your certificate comes higher we will increase our offer accordingly.

    2. Then send these results via email and we’ll proceed with the deal.

    If you are new to the certification process I can help you with the step by step

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  • Mj December 15, 2014, 3:02 am

    One more, Enjoy and Be careful 🙂

    Hello!

    I have a request from my buyer for purchasing xxxxxxxxxxxxx.com.

    My client has six-figure budget for 75-85 domains. He invests in domains with good potential almost every month.

    Please email me your desired price.

    How can we transfer money to you (escrow, wire transfer or check)?

    I provide brokerage services for VIP domain buyers. If you have more domains for sale please email me the list with prices.

    Regards,

    Howard Sandler, Ph. D.

    MCSE

    Vice President | Investor Relations | Domain Management Team

    5 Roundwood Avenue

    Stockley Park

    Uxbridge

    Middlesex

    UB11 1FF

    United Kingdom

    0345 458 2418

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  • Steve January 23, 2015, 7:58 am

    I received the same email as MJ. I bought my domain from whois.com and wanted all services to be provided by them. He continued to push the web site below, so I knew some thing didn’t smell right.
    http://tools.digital-certificates.net/appraisal_order.htm

    Domain Sellers beware!!!

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  • Mio May 8, 2015, 7:37 am

    Here’s my correspondence with a scummer:

    Hi Joseph,
    The sum is too low anyhow, so there’s no need to bother with certification.
    Best,
    XXX

    From: VP Investor Relations [mailto:front.office.hosting@gmail.com]
    Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 1:26 PM
    To: XXX
    Subject: Re: Offer to purchase XXX.com

    My client offers a sum in $10,000 – $30,000 range. The exact figure will depend on the appraisal results (see below).

    Before we go further we need only one thing from you:

    My client is a professional investor and he buys certified domains only.

    If your domain has been certified, please email me the certificate and we will proceed with the sale. If you don’t have a certificate it’s not a problem. I may send you a link where you can obtain it. Please don’t worry. It takes 1-2 minutes to order it. The results will be sent to you within 24 hours. Then you send me the certificate via email and we’ll proceed with the sale

    The certification includes the following:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. It will show your domain name is not overpriced. On the other hand if the valuation comes higher we will increase the price accordingly.

    2. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems.

    3. Verification of the owner. It proves you are a legitimate owner and your domain has no any obligations and restrictions. I’m sure that you are a legitimate owner so it will be only a formality.

    As a broker I’m very interested in a good valuation part of this certificate because my client pays me a commission (10-15% of the sale price) on every domain purchase. So I’m not interested in a low price too.

    You can read about the certificate agency at http://answers.google-answers.net/archive/threadview192711.htm (“Domain Broker” is my nickname).

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site and order a certificate (domain valuation + TM verification). Submit your domains to them and let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer so you need the appraisal near this value. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Then send these results via email and we’ll proceed with the deal.

    If you are new to the certification process, I can help you with the step by step instructions.
    On 08.05.2015 15:12, XXX wrote:
    Hi Joseph,

    We do have plans for xxx.com but might consider selling it for an outrageous amount.

    Best wishes,

    XXX

    —–Original Message—–
    From: front.office.hosting@gmail.com [mailto:front.office.hosting@gmail.com]
    Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 2:01 PM
    To: XXX
    Subject: Offer to purchase XXX.com

    Hello!

    I represent an investor from Norway who needs XXX.com for a new project.

    Are you still interested in selling this domain? If so, please reply back to our email and I will provide you with further details how to proceed with the sale.

    Best Regards,

    Joseph Halpert, Ph. D.

    Vice President Investor Relations

    Front Office Hosting

    Jakob Askelandsvei 13
    4314
    SANDNES
    NO

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  • Marc Bongers August 1, 2015, 11:14 am

    Hell all,

    Thanks to this blog I did not get scammed! I recevied this e-mail and luckily read this blog.

    Regards, Marcus

    From: lawyer.walla.co.il@gmail.com
    To: X
    Subject: Offer to purchase X
    Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 07:35:41 -0700

    Hello!

    I represent an investor from USA who would like to buy lady4me.com for a new project.
    The buyer is a professional investor and owns several businesses.
    Are you still interested in selling the domain name?
    If yes, let’s discuss the sale process.
    If you have other names for sale, please email me the list.
    I have regular meetings with many major domain investors.

    Best Regards,

    Shimon Arnon

    Lawyer

    36 HaAtzmaut St

    Haifa

    3309518

    Israel

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  • putanameonit August 7, 2015, 9:50 am

    Hello!

    I represent an investor from USA who would like to buy whiskey-bottle.com for a new project.

    The buyer is a professional investor and owns several businesses.

    Are you still interested in selling the domain name?

    If yes, let’s discuss the sale process.

    If you have other names for sale, please email me the list.

    I have regular meetings with many major domain investors.

    Best Regards,

    Shimon Arnon

    Lawyer

    36 HaAtzmaut St

    Haifa

    3309518

    Israel

    Is this a douchebag scammer???????

    Reply
    • Marc August 8, 2015, 2:37 pm

      Yes he is. This faker contacted me last week.

      Regards from Germany,
      Marc

      Reply
  • Tom August 7, 2015, 7:59 pm

    did also get the email from the name-tools.net scammers. Same gmail address.

    Reply
  • Martin August 16, 2015, 4:26 am

    Hello!

    I represent an investor from USA who would like to buy sexsell.net for a new project.

    The buyer is a professional investor and owns several businesses.

    Are you still interested in selling the domain name?

    If yes, let’s discuss the sale process.

    If you have other names for sale, please email me the list.

    I have regular meetings with many major domain investors.

    Best Regards,

    Alon Shamir

    Lawyer

    36 HaAtzmaut St

    Haifa

    Israel

    Reply
  • Gordon September 11, 2015, 11:30 pm

    I Just got the mail. They are trying to scam me too with the domain http://topdomainsales.net/appraisal_order.htm

    Thanks to this forum for saving me. Else I might have fallen for this too.

    Be diligent people, these scammers are clever and they lure you in.

    Regards!

    Reply
  • Frank September 18, 2015, 3:40 pm

    I’ve got this mail too (with domain topdomainsales.net)
    I’ve checked the whois data and there is info that this domain was registered about 1 month ago.

    Reply
  • Chris January 11, 2016, 4:11 am

    LOL….I’m so glad I decided to check this out had someone send me the following:

    Hello!

    I represent an investor from Canada who needs mymoneycure.com for his project.

    He is a professional investor with 15 years of experience.

    I located your contact information in a domain name whois lookup and understand that you own the domain name.

    Are you still interested in selling?

    If you have more names I can help you to sell them.

    Best Regards,

    Walter Zendelman

    Customer Support

    Domain Names Department

    123 REG UK

    Then the followup:

    Chris,

    The buyer will pay you the appraised value. It will be fair since he does not want to pay something over the real market value.

    Based on my experience, I think your name is in $15,000 – $20,000 range.

    Do you have a certificate of the appraised value?

    If you don’t have it’s not a problem. You can order it online.

    He needs it from a source he knows and trusts.

    I’m also interested in a good estimate of the market price because he pays me % on each sale.

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site (see instructions below) and submit your domain for the certification. Please let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer. It will help you to get a better valuation. In the comment field please ask them to guarantee that the appraised value will be higher than the appraisal service fee. In this case you will not risk to pay and get a low appraisal. I suggest you this company because they protect you as the seller from getting a low appraised value. They will send you the payment instruction only if your domain is worth $1000 or higher. Otherwise your request will be declined and you will not pay hem anything. Other companies does not offer this option.

    2. If your request will be approved, please pay them the fee and wait for 24 hours. Then send me the results via email and we will start the sale process. As soon as he receives your certificate, he will buy your domain via an escrow service. Any escrow service will be able to pay you via Paypal, Wire, Western Union or any other method you prefer.

    He wants to ensure the safe delivery of the funds to you. Furthermore, since this is our first time conducting any business, I believe that using a third-party escrow service can provide a safe, well defined sale process.

    The certificate must include only 2 things to be accepted by my buyer:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. Only manual valuation is accepted. No valuations generated by scripts.

    2. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems. He would like this verification to be included in the appraisal report. It’s not a problem because some companies include the TM verification for free.

    You can read about the recommended certification agency at Google Answers: http://archive.answers-google.org/answers/threadview/id/91627381.html (“Domain Broker” is my nickname there).

    If you are new to certifications, I can send you step by step instructions.

    Thanks Morgan and Everyone here for posting your stories you are true life savers. Now I know what to look for.

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  • Ophelis January 27, 2016, 10:20 pm

    Here is mine:
    The buyer will pay you the appraised value. It will be fair since he does not want to pay something over the real market value.

    Based on my experience, I think your name is in $15,000 – $20,000 range.

    Do you have a certificate of the appraised value?

    If you don’t have it’s not a problem. You can order it online.

    He needs it from a source he knows and trusts.

    I’m also interested in a good estimate of the market price because he pays me % on each sale.

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site (see instructions below) and submit your domain for the certification. Please let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer. It will help you to get a better valuation. In the comment field please ask them to guarantee that the appraised value will be higher than the appraisal service fee. In this case you will not risk to pay and get a low appraisal. I suggest you this company because they protect you as the seller from getting a low appraised value. They will send you the payment instruction only if your domain is worth $1000 or higher. Otherwise your request will be declined and you will not pay hem anything. Other companies does not offer this option.

    2. If your request will be approved, please pay them the fee and wait for 24 hours. Then send me the results via email and we will start the sale process. As soon as he receives your certificate, he will buy your domain via an escrow service. Any escrow service will be able to pay you via Paypal, Wire, Western Union or any other method you prefer.

    He wants to ensure the safe delivery of the funds to you. Furthermore, since this is our first time conducting any business, I believe that using a third-party escrow service can provide a safe, well defined sale process.

    The certificate must include only 2 things to be accepted by my buyer:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. Only manual valuation is accepted. No valuations generated by scripts.

    2. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems. He would like this verification to be included in the appraisal report. It’s not a problem because some companies include the TM verification for free.

    You can read about the recommended certification agency at Google Answers: http://archive.answers-google.org/answers/threadview/id/90629381.html (“Domain Broker” is my nickname there).

    If you are new to certifications, I can send you step by step instructions.

    PS: I post it to keep the site active 🙂

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  • Ognen March 6, 2016, 4:43 pm

    Another one:
    Hello!

    I represent an investor from the Great Britain who wants to buy xxxxxx.com for a new project.

    I located your contact information in a domain name whois lookup and understand that you own the domain name.

    Are you still interested in selling?

    If you have more names I can help you to sell them.

    Best Regards,

    Greg Neumann

    Vice President

    Hostgator UK Hosting

    ———

    My buyer invests money in web projects. He buys 10-15 domains for each project to get the maximum traffic possible. After that he sells developed web sites and make a good profit.

    The buyer will pay you the appraised value. It will be fair since he does not want to pay something over the real market value.

    Based on my experience, I think your name is in $15,000 – $20,000 range.

    Do you have a certificate of the appraised value?

    If you don’t have it’s not a problem. You can order it online.

    He needs it from a source he knows and trusts.

    I’m also interested in a good estimate of the market price because he pays me % on each sale.

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site (see instructions below) and submit your domain for the certification. Please let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer. It will help you to get a better valuation. In the comment field please ask them to guarantee that the appraised value will be higher than the appraisal service fee. In this case you will not risk to pay and get a low appraisal. I suggest you this company because they protect you as the seller from getting a low appraised value. They will send you the payment instruction only if your domain is worth $1000 or higher. Otherwise your request will be declined and you will not pay hem anything. Other companies does not offer this option.

    2. If your request will be approved, please pay them the fee and wait for 24 hours. Then send me the results via email and we will start the sale process. As soon as he receives your certificate, he will buy your domain via an escrow service. Any escrow service will be able to pay you via Paypal, Wire, Western Union or any other method you prefer.

    He wants to ensure the safe delivery of the funds to you. Furthermore, since this is our first time conducting any business, I believe that using a third-party escrow service can provide a safe, well defined sale process.

    The certificate must include only 2 things to be accepted by my buyer:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. Only manual valuation is accepted. No valuations generated by scripts.

    2. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems. He would like this verification to be included in the appraisal report. It’s not a problem because some companies include the TM verification for free.

    If you are new to certifications, I can send you step by step instructions.

    ——-

    Yes, of course! Since you are new I can help you with step by step instructions how to obtain the certificate my client needs. Please go to Name Seek Certificate Order Form

    He guarantees you the sale after you send the certificate. He will proceed with the purchase the same day he receives it from you.

    Just submit your domains and let them know you have a buyer with $15,000 offer. It will increase the final appraised value of your domain. If everything is ok with your domain, they will send you the payment instructions. So there is no risk for you.

    They also verify trademarks and my client accept their verifications. It’s very important for us to finish the sale without delays.

    It will take only 2 minutes to submit your domains. If they approve your request, please proceed with the payment.

    After you make the payment, they will send you the results within 24 hours. Simply resend me the certificate via email.

    After we receive your certificate we will proceed with the sale. I may help you with the transfer process. Please don’t worry. I will be with you during the whole sale/transfer process. You can count on my help.

    —-

    Payment istructions:

    Dear ****,

    We have reviewed your application and it has been approved.

    The certification will include appraisal, Trademark Infringement verification and owner’s validation. It will be a manual service (no scripts). Your domain has a good potential and we will take into account the offer you have in $15,000 range. It will increase the final appraised figure.

    We guarantee the final appraised value will be higher than the certification fee.

    I send you the payment instructions:

    Please pay for the certification of 2 domain (99 eur each) at https://secure.2000charge.com/sys/PaymentSelect.asp?id=10564&pricepoint=10564100&purchaseamt=198&currencyid=EUR&purchasedesc=DomainCertification

    You can pay via DirectPay EU (online bank transfer).

    After we receive your payment we will certify your domains. The results will be sent to your email within 24 hours.

    If you have any problems with making the payment, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

    Sincerely,

    Sarah Sevenich


    Fortunately I have not paid anything.

    Beware of: http://smartdomainsales.net/
    http://name-seek.com/

    Reply
  • news.com.au April 6, 2016, 5:50 pm

    You may get several friends to produce a range of savings.

    Reply
  • Mohammad April 28, 2016, 9:12 am

    Hi friends
    I have received similar email
    i listed my domain for sale in sedo.com by 5000$ but he sent me a 15000$ offer !!
    it is so funny isn’t it ?!

    below is his email : transfer@123-reg-co-uk.info
    Our commission is 5% only. You will pay it after receiving the funds from the buyer. In order to earn a better commission I will do my best to sell your domain at the highest price possible.

    My buyer invests money in online projects. He buys 10-12 domains for each project to get the maximum traffic possible.

    The buyer will pay you the appraised value. He needs an independent expertise because you and me are interested in a high sale price and my buyer does not want to overpay. He also needs it for accounting and tax purposes.

    Based on my experience, I think your name is in $15,000 – $20,000 range.

    Do you have a certificate of the appraised value from an independent authority (not your broker or auction site)?

    If you don’t have it’s not a problem. You can order it online. I will suggest the best source when we can get a good valuation.

    The certificate will increase the value of your domain. It’s a must do if you wish to sell your domain to a professional investor with a good budget.

    The certificate must include only 2 things to be accepted by my buyer:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. Only manual valuation is accepted. No valuations generated by scripts.

    2. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems. He would like this verification to be included in the appraisal report. It’s not a problem because some companies include the TM verification for free.

    You can read about the recommended certification agency at Google Answers: http://archive.answers-google.org/answers/threadview/id/5134027.html (“Domain Broker” is my nickname there).

    The process is very easy and will take only two minutes of your time:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site and submit your domain for the certification. Please let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer. It will help you to get a better valuation. In the comment field please ask them to guarantee that the appraised value will be higher than the appraisal service fee. In this case you will not risk to pay and get a low appraisal. I suggest you this company because they protect you as the seller from getting a low appraised value. They will send you the payment instruction only if your domain is worth $1,000 or higher. Otherwise your request will be declined and you will not pay them anything. Other companies does not offer this option.

    2. If your request will be approved, please pay them the fee and wait for 24 hours. Then send me the results via email and we will start the sale process. As soon as he receives your certificate, he will buy your domain via an escrow service. Any escrow service will be able to pay you via Paypal, Wire, Western Union or any other method you prefer.

    He wants to ensure the safe delivery of the funds to you. Furthermore, since this is our first time conducting any business, I believe that using a third-party escrow service can provide a safe, well defined sale process.

    If you are new to certifications or domain sales, I can send you step by step instructions. I will also help you during the whole sale process. You will be able to contact me at any time.

    Frederick Maser

    Domain Names Department

    123 REG UK

    Reply
  • marco September 26, 2016, 2:12 pm

    i am new to the domain world, this year i received 2 of these scams. the second one was for cub7.com and today 9/26/16 for nypays.com from yasmingilbert1@gmail.com . For cub7, the email was from frederick@hostgator-web-host.info , a broker who claimed to be in britain representing a buyer in Dubai, shown below:
    “Hello!
    I represent an investor from the Emirates (UAE) who wants to buy cub7.com for a brand new web project.
    The buyer is a professional investor in Real Estate. Investing in domains is a new direction for him.
    I located your contact information in a domain name whois lookup and understand that you own the domain name.
    Are you still interested in selling?
    If you have more names I can help you to sell them.
    Best Regards,
    Frederick Maser
    Domain Names Department
    Hostgator UK”

    Reply
  • Ayaz Mahmood January 22, 2017, 12:29 pm

    Thanks a lot, that was a close one.

    Reply
  • Jowita Emberton February 9, 2017, 8:29 am

    We were lucky enough not to have anyone trying to take advantage of our marketplace. Thanks for this. It was very enlightening.

    Best,

    Reply

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